Pusha T has opened up about his relationship with Kanye West ahead of the release of Clipse’s first album in 15 years, Let God Sort Em Out.
In a new interview with GQ, Pusha T shared how he felt like he was “playing the industry game” in the last few years of working with West. Pusha T cut ties with Ye and his G.O.O.D. Music label, where Push served as president, in 2022. He reaffirmed that the bridge with West is burned, citing the rapper’s rants about him and online outbursts as part of the reason.
“He knows I don’t think he’s a man,” Pusha T told GQ. “He knows it. And that’s why we can’t build with each other no more. That’s why me and him don’t click, because he knows what I really, really think of him. He’s showed me the weakest sides of him, and he knows how I think of weak people.”
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Pusha admitted that he made “great shit” with West and gave the rapper credit for giving back 50% ownership of his G.O.O.D. Music artists’ masters to the musicians themselves. But when asked about whether Ye could be excused for his behavior because of his history of mental illness, Pusha T said west is “sick” but “calculated.”
“If I take your sickness and take how calculated you’ve been and disruptive you’ve been and tried to be to me, then it cancels itself out,” he said. “I can’t look at it as sick, because you’re detrimental. You’re detrimental to everything.”
Pusha T also got candid about how the reunion with his brother Malice came to be and their experience working with West together. The two began considering a reunion after West had asked Malice to return to music for an appearance on his 2019 record Jesus Is King.
Pusha T said he warned his brother about the “foolishness” that would await him if he worked with West. Still, Malice obliged and the duo appeared on “Use This Gospel” on West’s album, although the collaboration was not without frustrations.
“I feel like we were [suddenly] convinced that it could happen,” Pusha T told GQ of their first reunion thoughts. “But there was so much going on within the whole Ye circle…. If we decided we were going to jump into it, then we should be jumping into it. It wasn’t progressing like that. So, I think, if anything, that was a stumble on just trying to make it happen and everybody not just being on the same time schedule. That was bothersome to me.”
The new Clipse album is finally on its way after some false starts, including a demand from Def Jam that they remove a Kendrick Lamar verse from the new project. The duo has since left Def Jam and are partnering with Roc Nation to release Let God Sort Em Out.
Clipse released the first offering from Let God Sort Em Out, “Ace Trumpets,” in May, which name-dropped West. In response, West tweeted that he “missed” his friendship with Pusha T.
Let God Sort Em Out will be released on July 11th.
